Jeh Johnson talks with journalist Chris Matthews about politics, something they both know quite a lot about.
Jeh also shares a funny story involving the two of them, when Jeh was chosen as a Designated Survivor.
Chris Matthews is best known as the former host of Hard Ball on MSNBC. He's also the author of many books, a few of which revolve around the Kennedys.
(This episode was recorded on 3-6-2026)
